Point Of Know Return

Album: Point Of Know Return (1977)
Charted: 28
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  • I heard the men saying something
    The captains tell they pay you well
    And they say they need sailing men to
    Show the way and leave today
    Was it you that said, how long? How long?

    They say the sea turns so dark that
    You know it's time, you see the sign
    They say the point demons guard is
    An ocean grave for all the brave
    Was it you that said, how long? How long?
    How long to the point of no return?

    Your father, he said he needs you
    Your mother, she said she loves you
    Your brothers, they echo your words
    How far to the point of no return? (No return)
    To the point of no return
    How long, how long?

    Today I found a message floating in the sea from you to me
    You wrote that when you could see it
    You cried with fear, the point was near
    Was it you that said
    How long, how long, how long to the point of no return?
    How long, how long to the point of no return? No return

    How long? How long? How long?
    How long? How long? How long?
    How long? How long? Writer/s: Ehart Phil, Robert Steinhardt, Steve Walsh
    Publisher: Sony/ATV Music Publishing LLC
    Lyrics licensed and provided by LyricFind

Comments: 11

  • Antonio from CaliforniaYou are all wrong. It is a metaphor. The ship and crew are the band. The ship is the music journey and the choices they made to pursue this dream, and take a chance and know return means that they are all in for the long hall. And either they make it or they fall.
  • Janet from Fl"Point of know return" is when YOU actually know you are at the exact point from which there is no turning back. Until then, you believe you can always go back. JMHO
  • No Know No from U.s.@Angela from Indiana

    Ironic response. "since" vs. "sense"
  • Angela from IndianaWhy is the spelling KNOW used it makes no since
    Isn't it suppose to be The point of no return
  • Pat D. from St. Paul, MnJosh from Tennessee had the correct explanation for the use of the word "know" in the title. It's obvious if you look at the album cover. Though Kerry Livgren was religious and left Kansas to form his own Christian band A.D., this song had nothing to do with religion. Followed by the Nu Shooz 80s hit "Point Of No Return." Only the titles are similar.
  • Mark Robertson from VirginiaI believe the reason that the band (and of course Livgren who wrote most of the music AND lyrics) is punning on the word "no" changing it to KNOW because he is referring to when will we (christian believers) will KNOW that CHRIST is returning as prophesied in the bible. Livgren uses christian themes and adds to the mystery by framing the song as if WE are on a journey on earth comparing it to sailing on ship and "HOW LONG" will it be before we KNOW that Christ will again walk the earth and save his flock (Christians). Otherwise, why make the name of the album and song "Point of KNOW Return."
  • Diego from New MexicoDistinction - other songs, etc., already titled "Point of No Return". Might also allude to the "known" point of no return.
  • Josh from Tennessee“The outer outlook meaning of this song by KANSAS is about being in the mindset of a heroic sea Voyager going on a sea journey, believing the Flat Earth Theory that when you get to the point of 'know' return is the ''known'' edge marker[imaginary line] on that certain part of the ocean when reached, either to cross the line and keep going to explore the unknown further to it's edge, or ''stop'' and go back to the Familiar.”
  • Barry from New York, NcThis song was more typical Kansas than "Carry on Wayward Son." A very easygoing uptempo song without any guitars.
  • Frank from Rochacha, Nydoes anyone know why it is point of KNOW return and not NO return? Thanks
  • Robert from Bronx, NyState Farm Commercial (Asian Dude) LOL !
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